Investigate reports of hauntings at the Mansion at Griffith Gate Restaurant.Follow
Up at the Mansion
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Jul 07, 2001 Get Out of Here
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We arrived at the Mansion just a little past 1:00 PM to meet with David, the Mansion Restaurant Manager. He and Lori, the Marketing and Sales Director, were getting pretty anxious about having a ghost hunt and asked if some of the employees could join us during our investigation. My feelings on this is, “The more the merrier”, especially when it is young adults. They seem to give off lots of energy and we always get good results with a crowd of positive spectators. A lot of times the ghosts will even interact with someone in the group as well.
submitted by pattiAs we gathered our equipment, as always, I went with my gut feeling
and decided that we should start upstairs on the second floor. To
determine where I wanted to set up my video and audio recorders I
visited each room and service areas with my EMF (Electro Magnetic Field)
meter. Through judging the results of the meter readings, it helps me to
choose which areas where I think we will get the best effect from our
video and audio recording equipment. According to our plans, while I’m
taking the readings, Chuck, my husband, will start to dowse in the rooms
where it is quiet so he can get an idea of what type of energy that
might be present. Once he gets his information from his “yes &
no” questions, he records his results and keeps them to himself until
we can see how compatible we are once I have dowsed the same area. This
helps us to confirm our findings.
After locating what I call the “Hot Spots”, meaning where the best
readings were received for possible paranormal activity, I start setting
up the video and audio recorders. We decided to put the video recorder
in the dining room where I got the highest readings and that was the
room the employees call, “Gretta’s Room”. (Gretta is the name that
the employees affectionately gave to the prankster ghost.) We decided to
take one of the mini recorders along with us while we dowsed to see if
we could get EVP’s (Electronic Voice Phenomena) while asking the
“yes & no” questions during the dowsing.
First, I started my dowsing in the main hall on the second floor to see where the rods would lead me. It didn’t take long until I started to feel the vibrations and tingling sensations in my hands to let me know that I was picking up an energy. With “yes & no” questions I was lead into Gretta’s room. Once my rods crossed I knew that the entity was ready to communicate. My first question was, “Is there a spirit in this room and I got a “no” response that made me laugh. That’s like knocking on someone’s door and the person inside yells out, “There’s no body here.” Anyway, after I had a good giggle, Chuck came to my rescue and suggested that I ask it if it was a ghost. I knew that. I was just taken back at the sense of humor I was dealing with. When I re-phrased my question and asked, “Is there a ghost in this room?” I got a “yes” response. (Just to clear you up on the little inside joke here, let me explain. Before I do explain, just remember that I have never died and come back as a ghost so my explanations here are theory and speculations from my own experiences and the research I’ve gathered. There is a difference between Ghosts and Spirits. Here is the short definition. A ghost is someone who died and has not completed the cross over and is stuck between the earth and spirit world. A spirit is someone who died and has successfully crossed over into the spirit realm and then decides to come back for a visit.)
submitted by pattiAfter a series of questions, in this room, with the first female ghost that I contacted, I soon lost her and then picked up a male ghost who led me out of the room by responded to my “yes& no”questions. Chuck told me later that his dowsing and mine were very similar in the same room but he was able to hold the female ghost a little longer and he asked her several questions. The first one was, “Are you a spirit and the response was “no”. So he figured that it was a ghost and when he asked if it was a ghost it answered, “yes”. He asked if it was a female and the answer was “yes”. Chuck’s next interest was to find out how long the ghost had been passed over. He started a process of elimination by asking questions like, have you passed more that 50 years, “yes”, more than 100 years, “yes”, more than 150 years, “no”. So he was able to determine that the ghost that he was communicating with had been passed over more than 100 years but less than 150 years. Then he asked if she was the ghost “Gretta” that everyone refers to and the response was “yes”. He continued by asking her if Gretta was her real name and she responded, “no”. He asked her if she minded being referred to as Gretta and through a group of “yes & no” questions his message was that she did not like being called Gretta but wanted to be called by her real name. She did, however, tell Chuck that she liked the people working there at the Mansion. He also found out that the male ghost in the room was the man that she was in love with while she was alive and her parents were very much against this love affair. A lot of what Chuck was able to pick up during his dowsing in this room, I also got a lot of the same information as he did. This is how we confirm how accurate our dowsing is when we get similar results.
submitted by pattiAfter leading me into the hall I asked the male ghost if he wanted to
show me something and he responded “yes”. I followed my rod, which
led me into Lori’s office. Once there I began another set of “yes
& no” questions to find out what the ghost wanted to show us. The
rod moved and pointed to the monitor on the computer. It held that
position until I asked another question. Then it moved and pointed to a
calendar. Again, holding that position until I would ask more questions.
Unfortunately, I didn’t seem to be getting anywhere by trying to find
out who he was or what he was trying to show us so I asked him if the
messages had anything to do with Lori and the response was yes. We
continued trying to put the pieces of the puzzle together with a few
more questions but then the rod became still and I lost contact.
At this point, I reassured Lorie that the ghost that we had contacted
has good intentions toward her and in no way is a threat. He will most
likely protect her or any other female working there. I felt that he was
very sincere in his attempt to make her feel better about working in a
haunted building with many different ghosts.
A
Secret?
As we were leaving Lori’s office and walking back to the second floor
hall, Brandon asked if I would play the tape back to see if I had picked
up a voice while in Lori’s office, so I agreed. I took my recorder and
rewound it back only far enough to listen to the questions that I had
asked while dowsing in Lori’s office. At the part in the cassette
tape, where I ask if this message had anything to do with Lori you can
hear a very distinctive male voice whisper, “Secret”. Lori, Brandon,
and the others in the group gasped in shock and Brandon said, “Oh, my
God, did you hear that?” Now more people were coming up to join the
group and so I played the voice over again. More gasps and nervous
laughter came from the growing group of curiosity seekers.
Now, while I was playing the tape for everyone to hear the ghost
voice, David, who was working downstairs in the lobby area, interrupted
us by yelling at the top of his voice. He had become a little hysterical
and shouting something about the lights going off and on downstairs and
we better not be messing with him. Just as he hit the landing, about
halfway up the stairs, I turned to face the commotion, when I noticed
the sconce on the wall. The lights in the sconce blinked on, then off
and did this three more times. The sconce was blinking after the lights
downstairs had stopped. Also, the lights downstairs were on but the
lights and sconce upstairs were not turned on. I can understand how
lights that are already on might blink on and off due to an outside
interference, but how do you explain a light coming on and off
repeatedly that has no power going to it. The light switch was turned
off to this light source that we witnessed going on and off.
This situation was a sure indication to me that the ghosts were
validating the fact that they were definitely getting in touch with us.
Since I had the only audio device in my hand not recording I decided to
set up a second audio recorder so we wouldn’t miss any more possible
EVP’s. I put the first recorder away so not to accidentally record
over the voice “Secret”. As I was setting up the second recorder we
had more people join our group. They wanted a recap of what had just
happened and they were curious about the methods we were using to get
these results. By now the investigation had pretty much come to a stand
still while I answered questions. I find that when we gathered in an
group and are talking among ourselves about what is going on, the video
and audio recorders will continue to pick up the paranormal activity
that will show up on the tapes. The ghosts seem to feed off of this type
of situation and they sometimes will actually say things that pertain to
what we might be talking about. We covered several subjects including,
“how to use the dowsing rods”, “the ghost of Gretta”, to “what
happened when the lights were blinking on and off”. As my devices were
recording I continued my conversation in “Gretta’s dining room”
while Chuck and another employee sat at a table just outside the room in
the hall. During this time the audio recorder picked up several other
voices. Some were very clear and made sense while others you couldn’t
understand or the sentence just didn’t make sense.
Before ending the investigation we decided to go down into the cellar to see if we could pick up anything by dowsing. With no luck, we decided to return to the second floor and check out Lori’s office one more time. I tried the EMF meter and got some really strong readings indicative that there was a ghost present. Lori decided that she wanted to try the dowsing rods. I instructed her on how to use them and what to expect once she picked up an energy. She waited patiently for a few moments and then her eyes grew wide with excitement as the rods began to vibrate in her hands. The rods began to move and they led her in a circular motion, which meant that the ghost was there and ready to communicate. What impressed Lori so much was how strong she could feel the vibrations of the rods. She said she felt a gentle hand on her shoulder that also guided her to walk in the circular motion along with the rods. She was just thrilled to be part of such a discovery. Unfortunately our audiotape had run out of space so we lost the chance of picking up another EVP at this time.
submitted by pattiOnce I got home and started the long tedious task of listening to the audiotapes to my amazement there were 14 voices. They consisted of male, female, and even a child’s voice. Some of the voices were clear, strong, and monotone. Others were more of a whisper and some were just plain garbled and made no sense at all. I tried my best to make out what they were saying and when I couldn’t I just wrote it out phonetically.
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The second cassette tape that I listened to was allowed to record to the
end and I was fortunate enough to get 12 more EVP’s. I had started
this recorder shortly after the episode with the blinking lights. As I
pressed the record button I asked the ghosts to speak into the recorder
and ask if they had a message for us. At this part of the tape you can
her a female voice whisper, “Yes”.
Later, while entertaining the other employees by re-playing the ghost
voice, “Secret”, David joins us to tell us about some computer
problems he was having while try to access a disc. He said he took the
disc out and decided to come up and work on Lori’s computer and found
us dowsing in the same spot he was drawn to. We started telling him
about the voice we had gotten while dowsing Lori’s office and he
figured that the ghost might have been causing the problem on his
computer so David would have to come upstairs. While we were standing
there I begin to explain to David that I was sure that the male ghost
was not a threat to Lori and he was very chivalrous and wanted to
protect her and the other females in the building. Just as I was saying
this, another EVP is heard on the recorder in a whisper that says,
“Dave”.
While we were talking about the EVP two more employees joined us,
Allison & Pam. We left the group and walked back to Gretta’s
dinning room and over the next few minutes I answered questions about
some of our ghost hunting methods. When they asked me about the dowsing
rods, a strong voice says, “Watch, cha, cha, cha.” It reminded me of
the movie I once saw many years ago. I think it was Friday 13th, where a
voice would say, “Jason, son, son, son.” or something like that.
The
Snitch
After showing the employees how the dowsing rods worked we started
talking about how the lights were going on and off earlier and as we
were discussing this event a little girls voice clearly speaks over our
voices and says, “Daddy was causing the lights”. She says it in a
way that makes you think that she enjoyed snitching on her daddy.
This
is my...
As we continued our conversation another EVP comes through pretty loud
and speaks over our voices. The only problem is that the words sort of
run together in a rhythm and I just couldn’t understand what he was
trying to say. This is what it sounded like to me, “This is my tra ba
bay and it will pay low out. It just doesn’t make any sense. It
reminded me of the movie “Nell”, about the country girl raised in
the hills that had developed her own language. It also reminded me of
how a deaf person speaks with the sound coming from deep back in the
throat.
Devil
Worker
As I continued to listen to the tape I heard a cute female voice that
says, “You Who” as if trying to get out attention. Shortly after
that the phone starts to ring and as if riding on the sound of the ring
a strong, clear, monotone voice says, “Devil worker”. Then on the
second ring he says, in the same way as before, “Jennifer”. When the
phone rings for the third time he says, “Lady that we all know”. On
the final ring what he says is completely confusing and makes no sense.
The words sort of run together and this is what it sounded like to me,
“Running my legs off in here”. Like I said, this may not be exactly
what he said but this was as close as I could make out. You can
understand the first three statements clearly but the last one is not
clear enough and I don’t really know what he is trying to say. This is
a common occurrence when you start recording a long message. When an
entity is speaking, the longer it speaks the less energy it has and the
last things that they say will not make sense or they can’t say it
clearly enough.
Hurry...
As we were about to end our investigation we decided to go down stairs
into the cellar to see if we would have any luck there and as we are
going down the stairs a male whisper comes through and says,
“Hurry”. When we got down in the cellar I asked if there was anyone
there that would communicate with me and the rod responded, “yes”.
There is a voice just at that point in the tape that says in a whisper,
“yes”. But shortly after that I felt the rods go limp and realized
that I was no longer picking up the ghost. I guess that’s why the
ghost said, “hurry”, because it was loosing its energy to
communicate.
To our disappointment we did not get any anomalies in our video. The next time we do an investigation at the Mansion I’m going to take the video with us as we dowse and ask questions to see if this might work better at getting anomalies on film. As I was checking for more anomalies in the photos I found a face of a little girl. It was in a picture hanging on the wall where Brandon was standing. You can see the face of the little girl just over his shoulder as he stood by the wall where the picture was hanging. When Chuck looked at the picture he thought it was a reflection of my face but I wasn’t in that room at the time he took that shot. After looking at the picture with a magnifying glass you can see the face of the little girl in the mat of the picture that was hanging on the wall.
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Here is the
picture of Lori, at the mansion in front of her office, as I was
demonstrating to her how to dowse. The rod led her around and stopped to
show us were the ghost was resting. The EMF meter is going off and this
is the same room where we got the voice, "Secret" when I asked
him if the message had anything to do with Lori and the rods said yes.
Here as Lori is dowsing I explained to her that the rod would turn and
point to where the entity was standing. As she turned and then stopped
she was astonished how she could feel the energy all over her. I took
the picture at that moment while the meter is going off and the rod had
taken her to this spot. Notice the ectoplasmic mist just in front of
her. There is no door facing or anything in front of me that would have
caused a flash to reflect back.
Jul 08, 2001 Introduction
NotesWell, all in all I would say that this was a fantastic investigation
and I was extremely pleased with all of our results. This case will
definitely help in my research of ghosts and the paranormal.
To conclude with my results:
EVP (Electronic Voice Phenomenon)
Here is a list of the voices in the order that they spoke to us:
Marriot Mansion Followup Visit
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Jul 29, 2001 Visible ORB!
We arrived at the Mansion just a little past 1:00 PM. Our team included Patti, Chuck, Judy, Theresa, Ransom, Barbie, and Markey. We went into the Blue Ashe room and held a quick introductory of what we were going to do on this investigation. Chuck was videoing this segment and we were able to document 9 different flying orbs above me and behind me when I would answer the certain questions. As I’m explaining about dowsing and how the military is using this technique to find land mines and underground tunnels you will see an orb fly around me. Then, as I’m explaining how I ask yes and no questions with the dowsing rod, I say something about it all coming together for me and an orb shoots down from the ceiling and goes to the right. While I was asking the employees if they had any questions for the ghosts another orb shoots down from the ceiling and it goes to the left. One person asked about the ghost being on the 7th floor and an orb comes down from the ceiling and flies straight down.submitted by patti
We all sat around a table and asked the ghost in the room questions. There would be a 30 second pause and then another question was asked. After about 10 minutes of questions we stopped the experiment and rewound the tape to listen to the responses. We were amazed at the creaking and bumping sounds we picked up while I was asking the questions. There was no one upstairs but every time I would ask a question the noise would start up again. We looked around and everyone was really still and quiet so I found it very odd to hear all the creaking and bumping going on during the questioning.
submitted by pattiWhile I’m rewinding the recorder someone that was sitting at the
table asked me a question about the ghost being here right now and I
answer sure and just about that time another orbs floats across the top
of a picture hanging on the wall and then it makes an “L” shape
motion and glides to the ceiling. When I listened to the recorder a
voice whispers “Sure” just as she asked about the ghosts being
there.
Then when the tape was ready to replay as I was naming off my group of
ghost hunters that would be attending the investigation 3 orbs flew
around in the corner in a loop de loop. I think they were really happy
that there were so many people interested in the fact that they are
there and getting so much attention.
When I gave the date and time of our session two orbs flew down from the
corner of the ceiling. The last one was when I was stating where the
investigation was taking place and when I said Mansion at Griffith Gate,
an orb from behind me goes to the corner of the wall.
While I was dowsing in the open area of the second floor, I contacted a male ghost and you can hear me in the background ask if I can ask him how old he is and you can hear a whisper of “yes”. Then when I asked him how long had he been passed over you could hear a faint whisper say, “don’t know”. As I was trying to find out how long he had been passed over I got a voice when I say, “More than 50 years, and I got another one after I say, “More than 60 years. I just can’t make out what he says. I can tell when I get a spirit’s voice because the static gets louder just before they speak and you can hear the static get louder each time you hear the voice. I just wish I could figure out what he is saying.
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Sometimes...
While I was showing the rods I asked the spirit if he was the one
playing tricks on the employees and you can hear him say,
“Sometimes”. In this same area where I was dowsing and picked up the
young man, we got a picture with a vortex by the video camera which I
faced for most of the questioning. Some other pictures in this same area
had shields, orbs, white and brown mists.
Sometimes
Revisited
Here I've extracted the "sometimes" EVP segment and repeated
it three times. Immediately after you hear the whispered
"sometimes", you can hear Patti say the same word. Strange
indeed!
After finishing my dowsing I asked my husband “Have you been taking pictures, Babe. When he says, “huh” you can hear a voice say, “June Bay”.
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Patti
The next voice comes through when you can hear someone say, something
about a name and then you hear a whisper say, “Patti”.
Some
Strong Evidence
One of the strongest evidence that EVP is real is when the
"spirit" or "entity" calls the investigator's name.
Here, I've slowed and repeated the clip 3 times to emphasize how Patti's
name is called out.
Patti tells me this actually happens quite frequently but since she is
doesn't want to appear vain, she does not report it. Come on, Patti, we
want you to report it!
All in all I would say that this was even more successful than the first one. We got a lot more orbs in our videos and photos even if our voices weren’t as strong as before. I’m looking forward to another investigation soon so we can try other methods of getting voices and finding our more about the ghosts that haunt the Mansion.
submitted by pattiIn the background you can hear me talking to someone and then a whisper says, “Quiet”. Someone tells me something funny and I laugh. After I laugh you can hear a whisper say, “Racket”. I guess there was a lot of racket there that afternoon
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